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Here’s a basic link on Tang Ye Jing…
I can share the text I downloaded with others interested.
Good comments Eric. I’m still not sure about what is exactly right here but the argument is definately unnecessarily combatative.
You point about gladly being in debt .. I see you’re passion. From where I’m standing there is no way ( having already done a degree ) I would be able to even get a loan to pay for the enormous fees for a acupuncture degree here. A herb degree would be another three years and another enormous loan that no one will lend me.
Hmm I jut want to practice and learn what I’ve loved for years and years now. It won’t stop me learning. I love this medicine and finding everything about it I can.
Totally hear you. Especially resonant is the point that I’m always trying to make – to myself, to my students, to my patients, to anybody that will listen – this medicine is most of all a WAY OF LIFE.
That’s really where my understanding, my practice, and this website is turning towards. That the classics above all teach us how to LIVE this medicine – and in doing so we will help others to heal and, importantly, ourselves.
Thanks for your comment!
I’m curious, Terrie, have you ever been in a community clinic? I think you would find that not only do our patients not feel any disservice is done to them but they are invested in the model because they can afford to get better. Access to acupuncture is a far larger issue than verbally sharing the thousands of years of wisdom. They want their pain to stop, and it does. They want to grieve and they do. They want access to health care and they get it when they walk through our doors. Come visit. You may be surprised what you find.
Curious that this should come up from your archives onto twitter today; for the last two months I’ve been struggling with precisely these thoughts.
As a disclaimer, I’m going through a bit of a life crisis right now: my younger brother passed away at 32 three months ago, and me and my family have been hit really hard by it. Having said that, for the last two years my practice has been more-or-less in the ditch in terms of sustainability and economic results, and it’s forced me to ask myself the hard questions. I’m not sure I have answers yet, but reading your post and seeing my reflection, it occurs me to say the following:
I don’t think we practice this medicine for any other reason than to help ourselves. Of course, at a certain level we are helping others, and contributing to the health and wellbeing (and raising awareness thereof) in our communities, but the truth is that the hardest, most profound work we do is on ourselves.
Being sickly is, in my opinion, a sort of unacknowledged prerequisite for the practice of any form of healing, not only because we cannot heal what we don’t understand, but because acknowledgment of our own suffering is what allows us to develop compassion for the suffering of others. Unfortunately, it is our job to be aware of their suffering when they can’t be. Knowing this, the infuriating part for me is number 7: we are in charge of this tradition of healing that has the potential to really help people out of the rut, but those people who make this into a goldmine are making all the money because of one simple reason: healing and helping people out of the rut means telling uncomfortable truths (see number 3 and 6). People will pay more money *not* to be told and given a palliative, because we as a culture are not ever even told that self-awareness is the key to health.
Still, the only reason we keep at it some days is this: we feel good doing it. When I graduated, my teacher told me something that I never thought was true, even though I had my intuitions: the real practice of Chinese Medicine is not needles, herbs, or massage. It’s a way of life. One’s way of life, set up as an example, a way of informing, the lifestyle of others. Eight years later I’m still flapping my arms, doing weird breathing, eating according to arcane rules, and standing in meditation like my teachers taught me, and it is in those spaces of quietness and aloneness that I find the inspiration, the answers, and the will to bring it all forth as a way to signal the way to those curious, desperate, or obstinate enough to ask.
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“Thanks so much for the interview. I purchased the iPad app and it is very useful as a quick guide, well done.
“Hearts and hands are good, and doing many treatments to hone the skills associated with hearts and hands are good – but thousands of years of scholarly tradition, intense community interaction & debate and the presence cultivated by careful study should not be brushed away as less important.”
I could not have said it better myself. I find many of these practitioners who rage at any criticism of their practice style to be very insecure, I think that they realize they could do more for their patients, but that it might impinge upon their ability to treat 6+ patients per hour, so compromise is made for the sake of lower prices and accessibility. They are left to trust that the patient will benefit, and as far as lifestyle advice or preventative medicine, forget it.
Perhaps they have never heard of practitioners like Miriam Lee who treated many patients but never compromised on the care delivered to each one. Quality and quantity can coexist, but it does require effort. Ignoring thousands of years of accumulated wisdom or pretending they have it covered when they are just a few years out of school is either ignorance or hubris.”
Thanks Robert – glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks Eric for getting the interview and sharing. Great job.
This is an interesting debate and one that reflects the polarisation in myself. I am studying acupuncture at the moment after three years of shiatsu practice because acupuncture was my first love but at the time I was unable to study acupuncture due to the enormous cost of doing a second degree, something I could never afford. I did shiatsu and love it but now thanks Jamie Hedger’s short course I can finally afford to study what I love.
This is where I become conflicted ! A short course like this enables me to practice a fantastic healing modality. The loophole that enables this to happen also means that physios, chiropractors and doctors can do ‘acupuncture’ after a couple of days training. As they are using a medicalised model of acupuncture, ‘this point for knee pain, this pout for headaches’ may mean that people feel like that they have had acupuncture and it’s not worked( because the points were inappropriate )
This where the CA model could be in danger if it becomes too rigid. Using a set of points for every patient and spending little time with them may mean we end with a very formulaic acupuncture. I have a great deal of time for the CA model and fortunately here in the UK in my experience it has not become conveyer belt and it is it’s affordability that means I can actually get treatment which I wouldn’t be able to get normally.
Personally when I’m practicing I know the power of back shu points ffeom doing shiatsu and would miss them dearly if I couldn’t treat them because of using recliners. I think moxa is massively under used and this doesn’t seem to be used much in CA nor cups.
To conclude this rambling post I feel that CA as practiced in the uk avoids some of the problems of the US model by using couches not recliners and spending more time with their patients than what I’ve heard in the US.
The other advantage is that it removes a barrier to acupuncture meaning that it promotes it in a way more effectively than medical trials which are difficult beasts.
I feel there is a middle way, but right now with the massive backlash against complementary therapies in the UK we need all the help we can get and CA certainly gets acupuncture to the people more effectively than anything else I have seen.
It is worth noting that there is a YouTube video of Peter talking about ye benefits of community acupuncture here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufw8qJUMP54&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sorry about the rambling nature of this reply I hope it stayed relevant!
A very interesting debate I know there are some acupuncturist who are very opposed much like they were to John Tindall when he set up the gateway clinic here in the uk which continues to do sterling work so I hear.